It’s a reasonable statement to say that Jesus taught the law to his disciples before dying on the cross. After the cross, the law was not needed because sin was forgiven for the whole world.
I believe the principles of the 10 commandments, in personal and civil application (no more temple or sacrifice system) are binding today as means of sanctification. That is, when I want to know what God commands for me, or for our government to do, I can go to the Torah because God doesn’t change his mind. This is not the ceremonial/covenant portion, but the eternal moral portion.
I believe I understand what you mean. I'd like to ask you, though: in what part of God's explanation of the old covenant with the nation of Israel did He say which laws were civil, which were ceremonial, and which were moral?
I would suggest that the distinctions are between laws for Israel and violations of God's character. For example: having sex with animals is called a perversion in Leviticus 11. In contrast, when God told them about clean and unclean foods, He used the words "for you." Obviously pork and shellfish weren't unclean for Noah, and they're not unclean for you and me... but, for the ancient Israelites, they were to "regard them as unclean."
We're either bound by Torah or we're not. I believe both the Old Testament and the New Testament are clear that 1) Gentiles were never part of the old covenant, and 2) the old covenant has been replaced by the new covenant. That doesn't mean that God's character has changed... so where we learn about God's character, we learn about proper behavior. Where we learn about God's specific instructions for the ancient nation of Israel, we learn... well, about God's specific instructions for only them.
We are still commanded to gather together for worship, teaching, edification, the Lord' supper, good works and love. Hebrews 10:24 and others. But the day isn't specified as the sabbath.
The relationship between the Mosaic Law and Christianity is often misunderstood due to misinterpretations that fail to distinguish between the Old and New Covenants. The New Testament is established through the death and resurrection of Christ, marking a distinct shift from the Mosaic Law, which was given to Israel and not the Church. Although some aspects of the Law appear in the New Testament, they are not binding on Christians, as they are now under grace rather than law (Romans 6:14). The Christian life is not governed by the works of the Law, which are not out from faith, but by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ (Romans 8:2). The law of the Spirit enables believers to live out their righteousness in Christ out from faith. The Law was given to expose the sin nature (Romans 7:13), but it cannot produce righteousness, which comes only through faith in Christ. Applying Mosaic commands to the Church disregards proper biblical context and misinterprets Scripture, leading to confusion and legalism. Instead, the Christian standard is to love the brethren as Christ has loved them (John 13:34), do good to all (Galatians 6:10), live out from faith (Romans 1:17), seek to fulfill the desires from the Spirit (Galatians 5:16; 25), and manifest the righteousness of Christ in them apart from the works of the Law (Galatians 5:23; Colossians 1:27; Galatians 2:20). Therefore, the Mosaic Law cannot be a standard for Christian living, for it is not out from faith. Instead, Christians are called to a higher righteousness in Christ that is apart from the Mosaic Law—a life lived out from faith.
I wrote an Essay just for you Tony. It actually compliments the other one I wrote today. "The Logos and the Law" at the end has a link to the next one: "Holiness and the Law". Please take your time to chew through them because they are different than anything you've seen before.
thank you. All we can do is seek the Lord for help and understanding. I send you my blessings. note: if you seen my “nausea”, that was to do with some of the comment. Forgive me if I caused offense.
It’s a reasonable statement to say that Jesus taught the law to his disciples before dying on the cross. After the cross, the law was not needed because sin was forgiven for the whole world.
Is beastiality repeated in the NT?
Nope. The New Testament also doesn't say that God is "slow to anger." Are you suggesting that Christians should be Torah-observant, Joe?
I believe the principles of the 10 commandments, in personal and civil application (no more temple or sacrifice system) are binding today as means of sanctification. That is, when I want to know what God commands for me, or for our government to do, I can go to the Torah because God doesn’t change his mind. This is not the ceremonial/covenant portion, but the eternal moral portion.
I believe I understand what you mean. I'd like to ask you, though: in what part of God's explanation of the old covenant with the nation of Israel did He say which laws were civil, which were ceremonial, and which were moral?
I would suggest that the distinctions are between laws for Israel and violations of God's character. For example: having sex with animals is called a perversion in Leviticus 11. In contrast, when God told them about clean and unclean foods, He used the words "for you." Obviously pork and shellfish weren't unclean for Noah, and they're not unclean for you and me... but, for the ancient Israelites, they were to "regard them as unclean."
We're either bound by Torah or we're not. I believe both the Old Testament and the New Testament are clear that 1) Gentiles were never part of the old covenant, and 2) the old covenant has been replaced by the new covenant. That doesn't mean that God's character has changed... so where we learn about God's character, we learn about proper behavior. Where we learn about God's specific instructions for the ancient nation of Israel, we learn... well, about God's specific instructions for only them.
Your thoughts?
We are still commanded to gather together for worship, teaching, edification, the Lord' supper, good works and love. Hebrews 10:24 and others. But the day isn't specified as the sabbath.
Exactly!
The relationship between the Mosaic Law and Christianity is often misunderstood due to misinterpretations that fail to distinguish between the Old and New Covenants. The New Testament is established through the death and resurrection of Christ, marking a distinct shift from the Mosaic Law, which was given to Israel and not the Church. Although some aspects of the Law appear in the New Testament, they are not binding on Christians, as they are now under grace rather than law (Romans 6:14). The Christian life is not governed by the works of the Law, which are not out from faith, but by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ (Romans 8:2). The law of the Spirit enables believers to live out their righteousness in Christ out from faith. The Law was given to expose the sin nature (Romans 7:13), but it cannot produce righteousness, which comes only through faith in Christ. Applying Mosaic commands to the Church disregards proper biblical context and misinterprets Scripture, leading to confusion and legalism. Instead, the Christian standard is to love the brethren as Christ has loved them (John 13:34), do good to all (Galatians 6:10), live out from faith (Romans 1:17), seek to fulfill the desires from the Spirit (Galatians 5:16; 25), and manifest the righteousness of Christ in them apart from the works of the Law (Galatians 5:23; Colossians 1:27; Galatians 2:20). Therefore, the Mosaic Law cannot be a standard for Christian living, for it is not out from faith. Instead, Christians are called to a higher righteousness in Christ that is apart from the Mosaic Law—a life lived out from faith.
Reading this article and comments: there is zero doubt Satan has taken control of the church.
Do you have a Scriptural response, rather than simply emoting? I'm willing to be corrected!
What commandments did Gentiles break requiring a Saviour?
All of humanity has sinned, therefore all of humanity needs a savior... Jew and Gentile alike. Right?
Sin is transgression of the law
1 John 3:4
What law was given to Gentiles requiring a Saviour from
SIN——>transgression of the law
Did the whole world in Noah's time do evil in God's sight or not? What were their commandments?
I wrote an Essay just for you Tony. It actually compliments the other one I wrote today. "The Logos and the Law" at the end has a link to the next one: "Holiness and the Law". Please take your time to chew through them because they are different than anything you've seen before.
https://open.substack.com/pub/erikperison/p/the-logos-and-the-law?r=2u3m64&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Well... you have no idea what I've seen, of course. I do thank you, and will definitely take some time to chew. I appreciate your kindness!
thank you. All we can do is seek the Lord for help and understanding. I send you my blessings. note: if you seen my “nausea”, that was to do with some of the comment. Forgive me if I caused offense.